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    74 KB Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:31 No.1982734  
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:31 No.1982741
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:33 No.1982752
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:33 No.1982759
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    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:34 No.1982766
    I have no idea or interest what P9 is but I love this bunny.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:35 No.1982770
    /r/ rule 9 on plan 34
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:35 No.1982776
    This anon is burning CD right nao.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:36 No.1982782

    And anon will take over the internets.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:36 No.1982787
    Is that Peter Rabbit's family?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:37 No.1982788
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:37 No.1982789

    Plan 9 from Bell Labs is a distributed operating system, primarily used for research. It was developed as the research successor to Unix by the Computing Sciences Research Center at Bell Labs between the mid-1980s and 2002. Plan 9 is most notable for representing all system interfaces, including those required for networking and the user-interface, through the filesystem rather than specialized interfaces. Plan 9 aims to provide users with a workstation-independent working environment through the use of the 9P protocols. Plan 9 continues to be used and developed in some circles as a research operating system and by hobbyists.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:37 No.1982790
    enjoy your ban
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:37 No.1982791
    What does he have in his mouth ?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:39 No.1982802
    Imagine a giant supercomputer made up of lots and lots of smaller computers linked together. That's what Plan 9 let's you do.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:39 No.1982808
    no thats what rule 9 is
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:40 No.1982811
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:41 No.1982820
    wtf is plan 9

    wtf does it do

    and last of all
    i want to fuck that bunny thing.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:41 No.1982823
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:43 No.1982828

    Plan is to archive every 4chan thread ever by distributing over many anons computers.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:44 No.1982835
    SHE has teeth.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:45 No.1982842
    so plan 9 is just....the GRID by the HADRON guys?

    or an earlier gay version of it...
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:50 No.1982888
    nothing really productive or attracting in it, just Glenda.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)21:50 No.1982890
    If anyone wants a comprehensive guide to getting Plan 9 on Windows, failsafe:

    Get qemu binaries for Windows.
    Extract to C:\Program Files\qemu\qemu-0.9.0-windows\ (which it'll do by default)
    Open command prompt, navigate to above path.
    qemu-img create -f qcow Plan9.qcow.img 2G
    That creates the virtual hard drive. 2G for now, 10G if filesharing gets going.

    qemu -hda Plan9.qcow.img -cdrom plan9.iso -boot d -L C:\Progra~1\qemu\qemu-0.9.0-windows\
    That gets the first boot with the ISO image going. The ISO image needs to be called plan9.iso and be in the qemu-0.9.0-windows folder for that command to work, as is.

    Then it's basically HIT ENTER, HIT ENTER, sdD0, HIT ENTER, HIT ENTER (Plan 9 installs so fucking automatically, it's great). And wait for a few hours. Then it's installed.

    Then run it with
    qemu -hda Plan9.qcow.img -L F:\Progra~1\qemu\qemu-0.9.0-windows\

    >> the chemo that's protecting /g/ !!dFvqM3VBtG/ 08/05/08(Tue)21:56 No.1982935
    so in essence it's capable of setting up a beowulf cluster?
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)21:59 No.1982963
    Uh, sort of. The trick to this is that the filesystem can handle almost all of the work automatically, requiring minimal user input, and it works just fine.

    Perfect 4chanarchive for everything on /g/ would be the goal, and of course, pr0nz and movies and such. I have all of TNG and I'm sure at least one other person would enjoy watching it on demand, anywhere in the world.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:00 No.1982969
    Sort of but not exactly.
    Theoretically it should be easier to set up as well, and anyone with a liveCD of plan9 should be able to connect to the grid without installing anything except QEMU, VMWare or something similar.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:13 No.1983041
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    it works
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:13 No.1983044



    thread archives:





    plan 9/g/rid project discussion and help (still small):

    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)22:19 No.1983078
    Man you need to give me a temp email so I get get you the mod password for the anoniboard. Seriously.
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)22:21 No.1983104
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    Oh, forgot the image. Here's what a proper setup gets.

    I didn't aux/vga this window for proper mspaint faggotry trappings, so it's kinda small, but a simple aux/vga -m vesa -l 1024x768x8 would fix that.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:24 No.1983132
    The 9/g/rid: brief project overview and status:

    Q: What are we doing and why?
    A: We are creating a Plan 9/g/rid for fun, data sharing, and experimentation/education.

    Q: Doesn't Plan 9 totally suck?
    A: Don't think of Plan 9 as a 'replacement' for you desktop OS, thats not the point. It's a different concept of how to work with data, networks, and computers. We are mostly running it inside virtual machines, so you can just think of it as a really crazy application program.

    Q: What is the project status:
    A: We know how to install Plan 9 in virtual machines, how to setup networking, and how to download and install software. We have used Plan 9 for web browsing, IRC, SSH, and other random computer tasks. The next thing to do is to learn the simple commands for setting up file system sharing.

    Q: How do I participate?
    A: Download a plan 9 iso (google plan 9 from bell labs) and get Qemu (virtual machine) for your platform. We are trying to create good documentation for install and configuration.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:27 No.1983163
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:31 No.1983198
    Somebody should make a plan9 disk image and host it with this: http://www-jpc.physics.ox.ac.uk/
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:32 No.1983206
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    Here, check this out:
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:33 No.1983215
    download it from gs85.com/plan9/ because the official site is slooooow
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)22:34 No.1983223
    A sticky for Plan 9 would be nice, just for a few days/a week until we get the 9grid thing worked out... then once it's decided, and /g/ knows how, we'll just have the occasional ARE YOU IN THE GRID thread that'll be perfectly normal.

    Fingers crossed.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:35 No.1983226
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    Ok so here's plan 9 in action with the Links web browser and Acme editor/file manager/everything. Note the files that acme is looking at:

    /rc/bin/termrc is the script run to setup the intial userspace

    /usr/glenda/lib/profile is the script run to setup glenda's environment

    notice that the key element of these scripts is the 'bind' commands -- in plan 9, you can basically configure the system any which way you want, by 'binding' whatever services you want to any part of the namespace.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:38 No.1983249
    Can anyone tell me what should I do to make the net work ?

    I have a Realtek 8139c card.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:39 No.1983261

    If you look at it from the standpoint of a standalone desktop OS, yeah, its basically the 'worst linux distro EVAR' apart from a few really cool apps like acme. HOWEVER:

    As we are always explaining, even though plan 9 is a shitty desktop, its an AMAZING network-services system. Once we have the /g/rid up, it will basically just be providing whatever network and data services we want -- the typical grid user will probably just leave their p9 vm minimized (they hardly use any memory) and access the services the grid is providing via their main os.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:41 No.1983276

    Its very very easy -- all you need to do is uncomment two lines in the /rc/bin/termrc file. You can do it easily using acme. I will provide a screenshot asap.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:44 No.1983306
    Please leave.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:46 No.1983321
    Different person here.
    I tried the steps posted last night, it worked on the live cd, but on my installed version it says it can't find /ether0. I found on google that editing the plan9.ini file will fix this but I can't find where that is.
    Halp? Running on QEMU on linux by the way.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:46 No.1983322
    sounds great, but will it run crysis?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:47 No.1983324
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    You need to understand a little bit about how to use acme to do this so play with it a bit.

    Basically you just need to open the file /rc/bin/termrc, uncomment the two codes for dhcp autostart, then middle click (click in on mouse wheel) the 'put' command that will appear in the top window border, then do fshalt in a terminal, wait, and reboot the VM -- voila! networking!!!
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:47 No.1983328
    /g/'s creating their own DHT/VPN?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:49 No.1983349

    and what would those services be?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:52 No.1983372

    After you reboot and have networking, the next thing to do is:

    9fs sources

    this command will mount the plan 9 software repository at /n/sources/ and most of the good stuff is in /n/sources/contrib -- however IMPORTANT NOTE:

    this is a good place to learn one of the MOST DIFFERENT things about plan 9 -- the
    9fs sources
    command mounts the network filesystem at /n/sources but that mount ONLY APPLIES to that particular terminal and processes it spawns! If you start a new terminal next to it, it will have an independent namespace and will see NOTHING at /n/. Even though this seems crazy, it is part of what lets plan 9 be a totally flexible network os. all your terminals in the initial startup environment see the same namespace, the one that is defined via the /usr/glenda/lib/profile -- but any modifications (bindings) that you make within a terminal will not apply to any other window.

    i will now provide a very cool workaround for this:

    after you do
    9fs sources
    in a terminal window, close all your other terminal windows and do
    and you will have a NEW rio window session INSIDE the global one, and the new rio session "inherits" the 9fs mount at /n/!!! get it???
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:54 No.1983376
    No, /g/ is creating the /9/grid... it's the same thing, but /9/grid sounds way fucking cooler.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:54 No.1983378


    file sharing, web serving, ssh, whatever the hell we want - plan 9 is designed around the idea of providing any kind of service to anyone, as long as they have proper authentication and permissions.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:56 No.1983392
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    This anon had success with Q on Leopard.
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)22:56 No.1983393
    It's POSIX-compliant, so... with Wine... and time... MAYBE!

    Also version 1 of Plan9.txt is done. qemu with Windows is covered, and that's about it...


    Email me changes and additions. Thx.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:56 No.1983395

    Got it working !! Thanks anon :)
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:56 No.1983397
    Is there any documentation into how this plan9 grid software works? Sounds fascinating.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:56 No.1983399

    so...collectively we can run crysis?

    holy shit sign me up
    i want to play crisis on my old laptop using plan9
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:58 No.1983408
    Weird, now I'm getting a 9fs sources connection refused error... anyone else getting this?
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)22:59 No.1983415

    Thank the Up 3 Days Plan 9 fanatic for that, he's been... pretty much our leader.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)22:59 No.1983421
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    You can do nested window sessions totally automatically, and each of your window sessions can have totally different parameters. Just type
    in a terminal and POW -- new rio session inside the old one! Pic fuckin related. Imagine if you could just click a button to have a new mini windows desktop inside the old one, and configure them however you wanted...this shit is AWESOME!

    It's like you dont even NEED to do virtual machines, the OS is so flexible it just creates a 'virtualized' environment as a habit.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:00 No.1983427
    >>1983408 here
    I did some pinging, cs.bell-labs.com works but sources.cs.bell-labs.com appears to be down.
    Does bell do some maitenance to the source server?
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)23:01 No.1983434
    That was the coolest thing to me, the first time I typed "rio" in an rc console, just for kicks. I was expecting a bunch of collisions but I got... another Plan 9 system? That worked fine?

    Man... I hope Midori takes some SERIOUS lessons from p9 because this is addictively creative.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:02 No.1983436
    Can i make Flash/Gnash work ?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:02 No.1983441
    The major flaw I can see in the /g/rid is network latency -- what good is accessing everyone's files when the person who has the files only has a 30 kbps upload speed? You can barely stream MP3s with that speed.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:02 No.1983443

    >9grid tools
    ... did someone here srsly get a 9grid directory set up on Plan9's source servers, or is that totally unrelated [and thereby not awesome] 9grid shit.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:03 No.1983445

    yes it's down
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:05 No.1983459
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    I think we blew up bell labs by increasing their plan9 related load from more or less nothing to MASSIVE TORRENT OF DOWNLOADING
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:06 No.1983472
    If what we want is data sharing, hopefully there's a way to share data from fat32/ntfs/ext2 drives, or at least a hassle-free way of getting data in and out of fossil.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:07 No.1983474
    I think the people maintaining the system have obviously taken note of us and are probably trying to figure out how to deal with the prospect that plan 9 might actually start to be used by random people to do cool stuff.

    Is this stuff mirrored somewhere? surely it is, weve got to be able to find an alternate mirror for the source code, which is all we need, stuff compiles fine.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:08 No.1983483
    4Chan claims another victim...
    We can only hope they're improving it or some bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:10 No.1983503
    Fuck I wish it wasn't down, I wanted to build some shit and have some fun.
    I know my net is working too because I can (sort of) ssh from it.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:12 No.1983511
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    Do I install or boot?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:12 No.1983516
    install that shit
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:13 No.1983522

    boot it first
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:14 No.1983527
    well the second you can get to sources, get/compile abaco and lrn2use it... then even when servers go down you can at least webbrowse

    On a related note, does FaceBook have some kind of mobile version that can be accessed manually w/o AJAX and shit. I want to update my status from Plan9... it'll read something like Robert is UPDATING HIS STATUS FROM PLAN9 LOL
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)23:15 No.1983533
    By the way, it takes some getting used to the entire Acme system. Everything in there is just text -- no buttons or anything, it's all just words. Your cursor makes things work. Let me put it this way:

    If you see a / sitting around, in anything, in Acme, and select+right click it, the root folder pops up. I can give you commands to run in Abaco and you just select them and middle click Send them, which makes them run in a terminal instantly.

    This entire system is strange and completely different than any *nix I've ever used -- it's entirely new, really -- but it's such a fucking trip to use it. I'm almost done configuring my Gmail to work on it.

    Email address is now attached, btw, I'm the guy who made the Anonib board. And I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THE EMAIL ADDRESS FOR THE OTHER PLAN 9 FANATIC IN THIS THREAD
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:15 No.1983545
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:19 No.1983587
    Sources downtime (By uriel Last mod: Aug 5 22:14 )

    Geoff Collyer posted a note in 9fans saying that sources.cs.bell-labs.com venti arenas partition has run out of space and will be down for a couple of days until more disk space can be added. He plans to fix this on Wednesday and things should be back to normal by Thursday.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:23 No.1983615
    This seems interesting and I'd like to help but would this OS run fine in a virtual machine with my specs?
    I have 256 of ram and a 1.20GHz Intel Celeron an Windows XP without all the bloat bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:24 No.1983625

    Sorry, trying to keep up with this thread, post how-to screenshots, setup other stuff in my VM, etc -- anyway email here:

    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:25 No.1983629
    What I like bout this picture: For a graph that puts OSes as modes of transportation, Plan9 is the only one that isn't going anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:25 No.1983632

    Link plz
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)23:27 No.1983645
    Thanks. Sorry for getting all mad about it.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:29 No.1983653
    It's orbiting the earth, going faster and farther than any of those other mods of transportation can imagine going
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)23:30 No.1983659
    Actually it's hurtling at thousands of miles per hour but whatever.
    It can survive on 32 or 64 megs of ram and while its copydist is processor intensive on Windows qemu, leave it running overnight. After that you'll have no problems.

    This thing is a barebones *nix, minus some *nixy things.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:31 No.1983669


    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:31 No.1983671
    >At the current time, JPC is running around 20% of the processor's native speed

    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:32 No.1983676
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    Wow a lot of Plan 9 on this board today.

    Okay P9 fanatics--why should I switch from my Arch Linux build to a newfangled UN*X upgrade?

    Give me a good reason---and proof that most of my linux packages work---and I will slap it on a blank HDD.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:32 No.1983682

    yikes, i just felt bad that it had taken me so long to reply, I was trying to apologize. sorry that my intention didnt come through. I think all the work you have done is awesome and this whole thing is about the most fun I've had with computers since I was a little kid in the 1980s.

    so accept my apology and let me know what I can do to help with the /9/grid! im tempted to ask in the irc channel about how to do some stuff but tbh im terrified because its pretty much developers in there and the conversation is taking place somewhere out past the oort cloud so far as my understanding goes.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:33 No.1983689
    Read the thread, it's not a replacement. And most your linux packages won't work. Well, maybe with a bit of work, it is POISX compatible.
    Either way, none of us (I don' think) are installing it in anything but a virtual machine.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:34 No.1983694

    You shouldn't switch - plan9 is about creating new tools and ways of dealing with network resources and information, its not a replacement for you main OS, its something to add on new and different functions.

    plan 9 is cool but unless you are a very very unusual user, it will not provide the minimum software you need for a desktop. that isnt its design.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:35 No.1983711
    /g/entlemen, will the Plan 9 VMWare "appliance" work with VMWare Player?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:35 No.1983714
    You shouldn't - it is not really meant for full scale usage [except as a research OS... so if that's your 'thing', by all means go ahead]
    This isn't Unix, this isn't Unix like (*nix)... it was meant as the successor to Unix which was even more filesystem oriented.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:35 No.1983716
    So, would it be worth it to start up an IRC channel or something for this project?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:36 No.1983722
    Plan 9 is only partially POSIX compliant. They dropped parts of the POSIX standards they felt weren't needed.
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)23:37 No.1983732
    Exactly. This is not a *nix replacement, it's definitely not new. 8 bit graphics are the top-of-the-line for it, but it comes with a built in Rainmeter, and if I know /g/ that's about as much as it takes to get everyone to install it at once.

    If you installed Linux because you were curious, if you tried new distros out of interest, this is for you. If you just use a computer, and don't really care how it works, just that it works... avoid this like the plague.

    I've been in that IRC here and there too, and it _is_ mainly developers. Then again they're the first adopter types, so I'm going to guess they might help. I might ask tomorrow when my eyes focus... how am I tired at 11:30, jesus.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:38 No.1983739
    We might as well make a channel on some network, it can't hurt... it takes what 10 seconds tops to register a channel?

    I mean if we ever grew largescale I'd say we port Unreal3.2 or some shit to Plan9 and fucking run the IRC server ON THE FUCKING 9GRID! (fuckyeah) - and then port irssi or something. But for now a channel would do the honors.

    Dude who set up AnoniB, can you set up an IRC channel? (It's best to have one dude in charge of this 'project' in my opinion... otherwise it'll be to fragmented and is destined for FAIL T_T)
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:39 No.1983746
    You're a fucking idiot.
    It's a fun little toy. Nothing more.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:41 No.1983763
    APE is still mostly POSIX/ANSI compatible though. Most programs should work.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:41 No.1983764
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    Yeah also got it working on Q!
    Here we go /g/!
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:43 No.1983776
    Yeah definitely thats a great idea. IRC is the way to go.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:46 No.1983799
    It is more than a toy. It is not a replacement for a UNIX machine right now.

    Be less of a failure, would you?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:46 No.1983801
    in rc terminal in plan 9:

    aux/vga -m vesa -l 1024x768x8

    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:47 No.1983805
    If ghc works in plan9(apparently it does), I can write you guys an ircd in haskell for the grid.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:49 No.1983819
    OP! Is there some way to use pic as status icons for Kopete [under KDE4]?
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:50 No.1983823
    So, I was looking over the technical details of Fossil, which is the Plan 9 file system. It supports snapshotting... but not much else (not even journaling). In fact, it seems like a file system stuck in the early 90's. Are my impressions correct?

    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:50 No.1983831
    We should start making a list of helpful tips like this.
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)23:51 No.1983834
    #plan9chan on freenode.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:51 No.1983836
    lol, macfags with their artsy buttons

    - turntable
    - explode in all directions
    - flash annoyingly

    - crack screen
    - run CPU backwards
    - power (OK, this one is pretty intuitive)
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)23:53 No.1983847
    Yeah. It's basically ext2 in terms of how it works. You have to fshalt before shutdowns or any real power state change. It won't do anything for you, and sudden power loss = sudden data loss, so fsync is your friend.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:54 No.1983857
    We need a fucking wiki, that's what we need. There is the offical wiki: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/ , but it is not publicly editable.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:54 No.1983859
    Also, Parallels doesn't like plan 9's network card detection. I'd recommend sticking with Q if you have a Mac.
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:54 No.1983862
    (If yes, send one to drbawb plz)
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/05/08(Tue)23:55 No.1983864
    Send to me, I'll put in my documentation.
    Related note, can you throw a guide together for how you managed it on a Mac? Again, documentation. I'll credit you, etc.

    Man I can't believe how this is coming along. It's almost like... IT MIGHT NOT BE A JOKE
    >> Anonymous 08/05/08(Tue)23:57 No.1983878
    I know, right? I raged hard today when it was said Plan9 was a meme, because honestly deep down I hope it becomes wayyy more than a meme.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:05 No.1983935
    Is there a bittorrent client for Plan 9? Or is there a 9P wrapper or w/e for bittorrent? Because BT + Grid sounds orgasmic.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:05 No.1983937

    Someone create one: http://www.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:09 No.1983969
    I have a Lunix bawks. what is my best option?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:10 No.1983972
    I'm just going to set up a a wiki of my own. I could probably have one up by tomorrow. With it's own domain name and etc.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:13 No.1983996
    The world doesn't need more wikis you faggot
    It needs more content in the wikis that ALREADY EXIST.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:13 No.1984001

    Fossil is only HALF the file system, the other half is Venti. The point is to separate the temporary files from the archival files. The design of the system of a whole is cool, but sure fossil can't compete with ZFS, thats for sure.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:13 No.1984002
    QEMU/KVM, undisputedly.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:13 No.1984003
    aux/vga -m vesa -l 1024x768x24
    ...unless for some reason you actually LIKE subjecting your optical sensors to the 8-bit indexed horror.
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/06/08(Wed)00:14 No.1984005

    Temporary wiki.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:15 No.1984019

    just install qemu from your distro's repository then follow the instructions at:


    and also check out the thread archives at sphericalharmony linked earlier, and the anonib/plan9 board.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:17 No.1984028

    The problem is, who is gonna maintain it ?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:17 No.1984031
    As was previously stated, the official Plan 9 wiki wasn't editable by the public.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:22 No.1984082
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    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:27 No.1984129
    Anyone out there with working installs who wants some software? If people want, I think I can upload some source code and you can fetch it to your plan9 boxes and compile it. Anyone interested in getting the links browser or some other fun stuff?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:28 No.1984144

    Are there any better browsers for Plan9 ?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:31 No.1984159

    Basically, there is Abaco (neat but slow) and Links (which is actually good with vga support for images). There are some older browswers but i think they suck worse.

    Using plan 9 for web browsing is fun and different, but is totally primitive compared to a modern browser. Abaco does do some funky stuff though.
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/06/08(Wed)00:31 No.1984164
    How to keep Plan 9 going:
    1/ Bookmark http://www.anonib.com/plan9/index.php
    2/ Visit once in a while
    3/ Actually try it (it's trippy)
    4/ ????
    5/ ACME!
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:32 No.1984166
    Getting some compilers working would give us a lot of applications to use, I think that should be a priority.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:32 No.1984169
    hmm... anyone want to port Firefox? lol
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:35 No.1984198
    That would mean porting gecko as well as (I think) GTK.
    Our first priority should be getting the grid up and running at least at some level.
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/06/08(Wed)00:42 No.1984255
    Walking before we crawl is essential... Firefox would take... well do a basic Ubuntu install, no GUI, then try and get Firefox from repos, see how many dependencies it has.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:43 No.1984264
    plan 9 isn't as primitive as some of you are thinking, we HAVE full C compilers and lots of basic software and everything, its just that development and use is directed towards new kinds of networked applications rather than recreating the traditional desktop. it could sure all be done though.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:43 No.1984268
    Is Bell Labs still working on Plan9 ? (fixes, updates, software)
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:49 No.1984299
    I think development ended in 2002.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:51 No.1984318
    >Plan 9 From Bell Labs
    >Fourth Release Notes
    >April, 2002
    >updated June, 2003
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:52 No.1984327
    No, development is ongoing, its just more of a community project and bell labs isnt paying programmers to work on it.

    As a matter of fact, updates hit the repos just yesterday I think -- first updates for about 6 months, i kinda think our interest might have triggered them to push them out.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:54 No.1984345
    Does anyone understand the drawing API?
    I think you're supposed to write something to /dev/draw/$WINDOW/data, but I'm not exactly sure what the commands are.
    I skimmed through the /dev/data man page really quick and tried sending some stuff from a Python prompt with no real results.
    I'd like to try and set a background image or something.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:54 No.1984347
    Rob Pike is at Google now, Thompson is retired, Kernighan is at Princeton, Ritchie never worked on it much to begin with...
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:58 No.1984379
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    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/06/08(Wed)00:59 No.1984381
    Freenode #plan9 is the dev channel, I think.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)00:59 No.1984387
    Is it possible at all to vm Plan 9 with Linux and whatever fucking VM it uses?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:00 No.1984392
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:01 No.1984397
    QEMU works well, though there have been a couple reports of networking issues.
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/06/08(Wed)01:01 No.1984398
    qemu, yes, it's very possible. Pull from repos of your linux distro of choice, get Plan9.iso, etc... go through the sphericalharmony.com threads to figure it out.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:01 No.1984403
    Think I might stick this on my dedicated server when I finally get it.

    Shit will be so cash.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:01 No.1984404
    Why wouldn't it be possible?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:05 No.1984426
    oh sup baby
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:05 No.1984429
    >> Jigglemaster !!uDdg+L8vW+Z 08/06/08(Wed)01:06 No.1984431
    please explain what the fuck all the hype is about
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:08 No.1984448
    it's just something for the basement dwellers to keep their penises hard
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:09 No.1984452

    same here
    why is anon cumming so hard about a crappy boxlike OS
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:13 No.1984486
    You people shouldn't be on a tech board.
    >> irssi Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:19 No.1984523
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    1.) Generate keyfile for sshd
    2.) enable protocol 1 on host
    3.) Run 'vt' in plan9 terminal
    4.) Run ssh user@ip
    5.) screen -raAd
    6.) PROFIT!

    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:19 No.1984527

    explain it then faggot

    What is so great about this OS?

    since we have OS wars here ever other minute
    defend yours
    what does this shit do
    whats so great about it
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/06/08(Wed)01:20 No.1984529
    Go back to /v/, I know you like it more there.
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/06/08(Wed)01:21 No.1984535
    Cloud computing, virtual massive hard drives, and it's a new toy to play with.

    Plus exactly 0 viruses! By Mactroll standards that means we're more secure than anyone.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:22 No.1984538
    not if i can help it

    there will viruses for this before the end of the week.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:23 No.1984545
    Cool story, bro.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:25 No.1984558
    hey guyz, compile an antivirus please I'm scared.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:26 No.1984570
    >hack value: n.

    > Often adduced as the reason or motivation for expending effort toward a seemingly useless goal, the point being that the accomplished goal is a hack. For example, MacLISP had features for reading and printing Roman numerals, which were installed purely for hack value. See display hack for one method of computing hack value, but this cannot really be explained, only experienced. As Louis Armstrong once said when asked to explain jazz: “Man, if you gotta ask you'll never know.” (Feminists please note Fats Waller's explanation of rhythm: “Lady, if you got to ask, you ain't got it.”)

    - The Jargon File
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:30 No.1984600
    sudo rm -rf /
    There is your antivirus!

    (inb4 "Sudo is not a recognized command")
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:31 No.1984614
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    in during this
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:31 No.1984615
    hey... look at your clock
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:33 No.1984627
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:34 No.1984635
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    Plan 9
    Fuck year
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:35 No.1984640
    >gaia and os x
    somehow offset by plan 9
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:35 No.1984641
    >Sudo is not a recognized command
    Sudo is not a recognized command(I think).

    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:35 No.1984644
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:36 No.1984648
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:37 No.1984656
    Umm, wouldn't the simplest virus in Plan 9 be:

    rm -rf

    Considering it is a distributed operating system?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:38 No.1984661
    I like the Gaia guikit. :(
    It was the closest thing to Area04 on OS X.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:38 No.1984662
    plan 9's got this.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:39 No.1984665
    You'd have permissions to deal with. That wouldn't work.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:41 No.1984678
    Ok, so all you need to figure out is how to perform privilege escalation.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:41 No.1984679
    can someone make a tl;dr explanation of what this is for?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:42 No.1984684
    Ok, even though bell labs software repository is down for a day or, I am providing some source code: if you have plan9 installed and networking set up, these commands will download, build, and install a version of the abaco web browser for you (all commands executed in rio/rc shell)

    cd /usr/glenda/tmp
    hget http://www.sphericalharmony.com/plan9/abaco.tar.gz >abaco.tar.gz
    xzf abaco.tar.gz
    cd abaco
    cp passwd.6.font /lib/font/bit/lucidasans/
    mk install

    then to actually run it, you need to do:


    post any issues you experience
    note that there are 'weird plan9 stuff' issues involved in webcookies and webfs, so if you start a new terminal and want a new abaco session, you need to redo webcookies and webfs
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:42 No.1984685
    Yeah that's ALL.
    Good luck.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:43 No.1984694
    Fuck yeah, will build soon
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:44 No.1984700
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:46 No.1984714
    >xzf abaco.tar.gz

    Needs tar in front, in case anyone doesn't know
    >> Cr9 !!8jMEdAlRRTX 08/06/08(Wed)01:47 No.1984719
    Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES FORGET to fshalt in an rc window after doing this or that browser will go byebye.

    fshalt in rc at the end of every session or you'll lose everything.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:47 No.1984723
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    How do I extract this?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:50 No.1984734
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    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:52 No.1984743
    virtual massive hard drives?
    so is this the start of a new p2p ? or what is exactly the purpose of this OS? what can we expect out of this?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:54 No.1984758

    argh yeah sorry cut and paste fuckup ><

    cd /usr/glenda/tmp
    hget http://www.sphericalharmony.com/plan9/abaco.tar.gz >abaco.tar.gz
    tar xzf abaco.tar.gz
    cd abaco
    cp passwd.6.font /lib/font/bit/lucidasans/
    mk install

    then to actually run it, you need to do:

    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:55 No.1984764

    what OS are you in? that is a bzip2 archive, so just google for 'bzip2 MYOS' -- and if youre in linux, its just
    bunzip2 THEFILE
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:56 No.1984769
    Partially yes, it will also allow us to distribute computing through the grid if we so desire, as well as any other networking services we want. Kind of like our own personal darknet.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:57 No.1984774
    What wm is that behind your plan9 session?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:58 No.1984781
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)01:58 No.1984786
    sage because it doesn't relate to plan9, and I respect our new toy
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:01 No.1984810
    We can pool our collective resources and use them as we wish.
    The possiblities are endless.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:03 No.1984815
    Plan 9 will be used as a massive CP network
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:06 No.1984831
    I hope not.
    If that's what this is going to turn into, I'm not letting you guys have my virtual machine.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:06 No.1984832
    sounds like a botnet in disguise to DDoS shit
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:07 No.1984837
    No. Actually we're going to do advanced calculations to find a cure for cancer.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:08 No.1984844
    I wouldn't worry, CPfags are too busy fapping to install Plan 9 and get it all set up.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:10 No.1984850
    can't I open it with winrar?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:11 No.1984854
    Try 7zip or Universal Extractor.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:17 No.1984892
    While it could be used as such it doesn't need to be, and there are plenty of other uses.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:18 No.1984899
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    installing now...

    not really sure why. I guess I'm just too curious.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:21 No.1984911
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    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:21 No.1984912

    yeah, it's difficult to get hardware-level virtualization configured when you only have one free hand...
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:21 No.1984914
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:23 No.1984927
    how do you install it in arch linux?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:23 No.1984930
    plan9 default install from last night
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:24 No.1984935
    fuck forgot link
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:24 No.1984936

    install qemu, thats in the arch repos right? just install qemu then use the following guide:


    and theres ton of materials in the archived threads to help. this thread will be uploaded to sphericalharmony.com plan9 area soon.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:28 No.1984956
    BTW, if you are running Parallels, the default CD-ROM image is /dev/sdC1, not /dev/sdD0. Dunno why.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:28 No.1984957
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    it's chuggin' along...
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:34 No.1984974

    Its the new kde 4.1 hotness... its very nice. Get it from you distro today!

    (No seriously, kde 4.0 sucked but 4.1 makes up for it totally... its time to switch from 3.5/gnome/whatever people!)

    btw, I can't log into #planchan. Its on irc.freenode.org? or where?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:36 No.1984980
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    So how come my date's correct?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:38 No.1984991

    My mistake, I thought you were talking about a different screen shot...

    What does awesomeWM have that ratpoison/dwm/ion3 don't?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:45 No.1985023
    Arch guy here, qemu doesn't wanna open the iso image. halp?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:45 No.1985025
    any other Macfags forwarding X from a Linux box running QEMU having keyboard issues?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:47 No.1985029

    It can look prettier?

    I like Awesome, but I prefer XMonad for dzen2. It kicks ass.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:47 No.1985031
    Use WMII instead.
    It's dynamic, fully-configurable, and it has some really neat features that were inspired by Plan 9 (including filesystem access to windows, etc.)
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:48 No.1985035
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    also, if you use linux look for QtEmu, a great frontend for qemu...
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:48 No.1985037

    uh, paste the exact commands used and error messages you are gettting?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:48 No.1985038

    Agreed. WMII is the shit.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)02:55 No.1985076
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    - Installed
    - Running
    - Have no fucking idea what I'm doing
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)03:00 No.1985099
    Get networking working first, then download and install abaco.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)03:03 No.1985115

    congrats ! yeah first thing to do is to get networking up, we have a couple different ways of doing it, easiest way is to learn a tiny bit of acme editing and uncomment two lines in the file /rc/bin/termrc

    check the thread archives at sphericalharmony (linked earlier in thread) and search for 'networking' and you will find tons of how-to
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)03:05 No.1985130
    Oh, the expert's still here.
    Acme is pretty badass but I can't really figure it out.
    To edit /rc/bin/termrc I had to run
    >acme /rc/bin/termrc
    because I couldn't figure out how to open a file in acme otherwise.

    It's probably dumb, but how does I opened file without commandline?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)03:07 No.1985136

    hehe! in acme, just type the name of the file on a new line
    then right click the name with the mouse button and POW
    it opens the file in a new mini-window
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)03:07 No.1985137

    Qtemu let me boot it. Thanks anyway.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/08(Wed)03:07 No.1985138

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